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I am a phase 3 MDMA-AT for PTSD therapist and PI. There seems to be a huge misunderstanding here. What Yensen did in the phase 2 trial is criminal. What Veronika Gold is describing is passive resistance where a therapist might put up a hand so that the patient/ client/ participant can push against the therapist’s hand. The patient themselves would provide the force or pressure and NOT the therapist. The therapist does not provide pressure and the patient’s movements would never be restricted. The patient can remove their hand at any time Safe word or no safe word, it would never be ok to pin down a person or restrict their movement as a form of therapy. MDMA-AT is about empowerment for the participant. What Veronika is describing is NOT a form of trauma “reenactment.” Rather, a patient might ask to have a therapist put out their hand so that the participant themselves can push against the therapist’s hand. This can be an opportunity for a corrective experience and sense of empowerment where a participant can have an opportunity to push against the therapist’s hand and yell out in this safe setting in way that they weren’t able to originally. The participant’s movements are not restricted and they can remove their hand at any time.

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Willa Hall's avatar

I find this post deeply alarming. Devenot continues to double down on their misrepresentation of Veronika Gold, who is indeed a leader in our community and a compassionate, highly trained and ethical therapist. Like Susan, I am a Phase 3 therapist and co-principal investigator on the Lykos Trials. I am completely baffled and saddened by this slander of Gold. I hope reasonable folks can recognize the harm that Devenot's careless and unfounded claims are inflicting here and think twice before believing them. Hurt people hurt people, indeed.

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